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Ten days ago, we asked through our Facebook page the insights of our fellow Batangueños regarding the RH Bill. The post was flooded by comments of those who are in favor and those who are against the passing of the said bill.
It surely is the much-debated topic in the country right now as this is something that could rock the bridge that connects the Church and the Government.
The thread of comments were so intensified that we just let our page supporters raise their own opinions. These are just some of the hundred plus comments posted. These featured ones do not reflect the personal opinion of the website administrators. These insights are published here as posted on our page.
Eric Lajara Cetron Dapat ipasa… Gumagawa n nga paraan govt natin para maibsan ang shortage sa education… Eh pag di naipasa yan, balik n nmn ang shortage sa education… Paulet ulet n lng ang problema… Palobo ng palobo ang pupolasyon natin… Kelangan ng pigilan…
Joan Alampay no to rh bill,life is a gift of God.corruption ang dapat pigilan hindi population.
Ian Rosales RH bill is different from the bill that tries to legalize abortion? Isa ito sa mga common misconcepcion. Ang sa akin lang, matagal ng panahon na nauso ang bentahan ng pills, condom etc pero bakit ngayon lang umalma ang simbahan?
Jun Gutierrez Katoliko ako, pero di ko gusto ang paglobo ng popolasyon lalo na sa mga syudad…pagdame ng tao, kulang ang trabaho, ala makaen…equals krimen! Kaya gusto kong ipasa na ang RH bill!
Kat Punzalan dapat mapasa na yan,malayo na sa carrying capacity ng Pilipinas ang populasyon…kahit naman sa natural family planning still it prevents a new life,so whats the difference…
Mabel Villena Tama yung nagcomment kung ano ba ang nilalaman ng RH Bill? Kailangan muna ipaalam sa mga tao ang nakasaad dyan bago tayo kumontra o sumang-ayon.. Ang Simbahan kontra dahil pro-life sila, pero sa dami na ng populasyon kailangan na ng solusyon!
Bryan Caguitla Tenorio 1st thng to do is educate people of what comprises the rH bill, 2nd it shud be in general,wid public interest.thats for now before saying yes or no.
Jack Pasia Caparas Di naman kasali abortion sa RH bill d ba? Dami ngang mabubuong tao pero tingnan nyo naman ang pamumuhay lalo na ung naglalakihang pamilya na d naman mabigyan ng good education @ mapakain ng maayos ang pamilya. See the street in Metro Manila… tinu2lungan ga iyan ng mga opposers ng RH bill? Lalo na ng simbahan?..
Trixia Mae Candava before giving your own conclusions, why not read the whole content of RH Bill? Most of Anti-RH Bill obviously haven’t read it. http://rhbill.org/about/rh-bill-text/ It’s not just about sex, abortion and condoms. It’s about mothers and children and their health. Open your mind. Don’t be fooled by those preachers who doesn’t know anything about health.
Kristine Balmes Para sa akin eh dapat ipasa ang RH Bill. Kung mababasa ng bawat Pilipino ang nilalaman ng batas na ito eh makikita nyo na wala namang sinasaad tungkol sa abortion dito. Mahirap kung di well informed ang mga opinions na binibitawan natin. Mahalaga talaga ang buhay ng tao kung kaya’t dapat lamang na isang maganda at maunlad na buhay ang maranasan ng bawat isa sa atin. Subali’t dahil sa kahirapan ng buhay sa kadamihan na ng tao dito eh napipilitang mamaluktot sa kumot ang ating mga kababayan. Imulat natin ang ating mga mga sa katotohanan na nakapaligid lamang sa atin. Mga pamilyang nagkalat sa kalsada para mamalimos. Mga pamilyang napipilitang magkahiwahiwalay dahilang napakaliit ng oportunidad na makahanap ng matinong trabaho dito dahil sa kadamihan ng nagaagawan sa trabaho. Mga batang sa maagang edad eh napipilitang magtrabaho para lamang makapagaral dahil hindi sapat ang kinikita ng magulang na mapaaral ang lahat ng anak. Mga musmos na batanga dahil sa kakulangan ng kaalaman eh nadidisgrasya at nagiging batang ina. Kung ngayon nga na napakadami na natin eh hindi na magkasya ang resources ng Pilipinas para sa bawat isa eh lalo na kung patuloy na dadami ang ating populasyon. Ang pinopromote ng RH Bill ay ang responsible parenting at ang choice to a better life. Hindi nito sinusuportahan ang abortion dahil talagang labag ito sa batas ng tao at sa batas ng Diyos.
Ria Samson im not agree s RH bill n yn dahil ang sabi ng diyos CGE HUMAYO KAYO AT MGPAKARAMI.kya bkt ipapasa yng rh bill n yan d naman mapipigilan ng bawat mag asawa n magkaroön ng madami anak dahil ang diyos naman ang nagkaka loob nn kng kailan nya gs2ng bgyn ng anak. Walang karapatan ang kahit n sino ipatupad yng batas n yn! Dapat ang pg usapan nla kng paano masosolve ang kahirapan ng bawat pamilyang pilipinong nghihirap….
Eminence Steven Fernandez Katigbak kung talagang sa sinabi ng diyos na nasa bible na humayo kayo at magpakarami, noon pa kasi yung na panahong kaunti pa ang tao sa mundo pero iba na ang siste ngayon eh mabigat na ang nakaatang na responsibilidad ng mga magulang dahil na rin sa kahirapan..
Mabel Anterola Abortiooon? Yun nga ang gusto maiwasan ng RH Bill! PRO RH BILL! Oras na para ma legalize yan at maging practical.
Mia Samonte Bilang isang health provider, agree ako sa RHBill. Di lang naman kasi ito about sa contraception or sa population control, or sa economiya ng bansa. It’s about educating the people and opening them to choices. It’s about making the Filipino “self-reliant” and responsible. Pag sinabi bang pro-rh ka, eh gagamit ka na ng contraceptives automatically?.. No. Magiging mas aware ka lang sa concept ng family planning. Magiging mas maingat ka, bilang magulang, para mabigyan ng mabuting buhay ang mga supling mo. Wala naman kasing kaso kung 1 o 100 ung anak mo eh, basta lang kaya mo silang alagaan ng maayos lahat ng pantay-pantay.. (At Syempre exagge ung 100, more than 4 pregnancy is high-risk na for the mother, at kelangan din naman natin tuunan ng pansin ang mga ina.. HELLO?! Ang hirap kayang manganak. Sabi nga nila, pag nanganganak ka, ang isang paa mo ay nasa hukay.. -un nga ba ung kasabihang un? Ehehe-)
Oo, may side effects ang contraceptives. Naisip nyo ba na lahat naman ng gamot eh may side effects talaga? Ultimo ung Paracetamol at multivitamins meron. Pero bakit natin patuloy na tinatangkilik? It’s because the benefits outweigh the bad effects. Ung alcohol at yosi, la naman dinudulot na maganda pero sige parin ang marami sa paglaklak at paghithit.. Pero ung paggamit ng contraceptives, ipagkakait nyo?… Labo.
Promote awareness. Promote RH. More choices, More fun. Wag isara ang utak. Pahanginan paminsan-minsan, baka maluom.. Babaho. Tnx. 😉
Johniel Lopez hindi issue ang over population, ang issue po ay kung papaano magpatakbo ang ating gobyerno ngayon….bakit hindi nating gayahin ang INDONESIA, CHINA, BRAZIL, INDIA na napakabilis ng kanilang EKONOMIYA at hindi sagabal ang over population bagkus naging big market pa nila at malaking advantage para makahikayat ng namumuhunan… kaya “say no to RH-BILL”, say yes to GOD…
Garcia Phogz hindi RH BILL solusyon sa pag dami ng population..!! no to RH BILL…
Mher Atienza Mia Samonte.. well said po. Kelangan talaga ng understanding kung ano ba talaga ang RH Bill, ung iba jan makadakdak lng ng No to RH Bill, sarado kasi ang pananaw nila. Kesyo RH Bill abortion na, condoms issues at PRO-LIFE sila… me PRO-LIFE bang masasabi sa mga magulang na nanganganak ng napakarami tapos di naman kayang bigyan ng tamang kalinga? Pano papasok ang abortion eh prevention pa lng nga ng pagbubuntis.. lahat ng sobra di maganda.. kelangan na talaga ng RH Bill.
May nagcomment dun na naging tagumpay nga sa pagpapainit ng maulang hapon yung usapan sa page. The RH Bill question was posted on August 6, so if you want to see their arguments, tyagain nyo lang kasi medyo madami, visit our page and scroll down to the said date.
Whatever your thoughts are, you have the right to be heard. But as we respect everybody’s opinion, we hope you do the same.
magandang umaga po sa lahat pabor po aq sa rh bill at d nmn po ito ang usapin sa abortion kundi paano ang tamang pagplano ng anak,at para guminhawa ang kalagayan ng pamilya ,lalo n ang ina ama,anak,pag lahat yan maginhawa at matiwasay ang pamumuhay,natural kasama n ang paligid n ginagalawan,domino effect ika nga po
no to rh bill… para sa akin hindi sagot ang rh bill sa kahirapan ng tao, sa krimen na nangyayari sa pilipinas at hindi din cya sagot sa pagiging mal-educado ng maraming pilipino. kung ang pagdami ng tao ang sasabihin na dahilan ng mga kung bakit may mga instances na ganyan, un dapat ang pagtuunan ng pamahalaan at hanapan ng solusyon..
matitigil pa ang krimen sa pinas kapag may rh bill? bakit di pag ibayuhin ang police visibility para mas iwas krimen.. madami na ba ang yayaman kapag may rh bill at wala ng maghihirap? bikit di solusyunan ang kakapusan ng ng kumpanya na mapapasukan at bakit di bigyan ng trbaho ang gustong makapaghanap buhay… kung tamad ka ba solusyon ba sa kahirapan ang rh bill? at sagot ba cya sa kakulangan ng edukasyon ng mga batang pilipino ngaun? sa palagay ko hindi, ang daming paaralan jan na nagbibigay ng lilbreng edukasyon.. kung ayaw ng magulang pag aralin un anak nya kaya ba cya patalinuhin ng rh bill? ang mga ganitong pangyayari sa buhay ng tao eh di kayang solusyonan ng rh bill na yan.. At sabi ng iba hindi lng contraceptive tulad ng mga condom, IUD, pills o kung ano ano pa ang ang rh bill, para eto sa health of a mother and baby.. papaano hindi papasok ang contraceptives sa usaping ito? sa pagkakaalam ko, sa mga nabasa ko sa libro napakaraming side effects ng mga contraceptives. at kung hindi issue dito ang contraceptives na sinasabi ng iba, mapapaliit ba ng rh bill na eto ang populasyon ng pilipinas? hindi mawawala sa ganitong usapin ang mga pills at condom. kapag napatupad na ba yan libre na ba yan sa mga malls, lrt stations, hospitals, bus terminals at pede mo na lng damputin for free? pano kapag nakita ng anak mo na grade 2 na nakakaintindi na, maiipaliwanag mo ba kung san ginagamit yan at pano ginagamit yan o magsisinungaling ka muna?
may mga araw sa loob ng isang buwan na hindi pwede mabuntis ang isang babae, bakit hindi ito ang ituro ng mga health worker sa kanilang nasasakupang pamayanan, maliban sa walang side effect wala pang malaking gastos ang pamahalaan. ang problema sa karamihan sa mga gov’t. health worker tamad at masungit.magbigay na lang ng contraceptives para walang pagod.
kung malaki ang problema sa baha (Flood) na ang dahilan ay plastic, papano pa kaya kung madagdagan pa ng condom.
hindi dapat ipasa itong RHBILL, bkit ba dumadami ang anak ng isang ina? ito ay sa kadahilanan ng kawalan ng sapat na pinag-aralan nagaasawa na ang karamihan pagkatapos pa lang ng high school sa kadahilanang kulang ang pampublikong paaralan at malayo sa kanilang bayan at ang nasa isip nila ay mag asawa na lang dahil di rin sila makakapag-aral.
sapat ang pundo ng pamahalaan para makapag aral ang lahat ng kabataan ang masama lang napupunta lang ang pundo sa ibang namamahala. ( di naman sa lahat)
ano mang makakasama ay hindi naaayon sa kagustohan ng panginoon.
ang nagsabi na Katoliko sila at sumasang ayon sila sa RHBILL, gaano ang kaalaman mo sa turo ng panginoon, ang sinasabi mo ba ay naayon sa turo ng diyos, gumagawa ka ba ng ayon sa ikakabuti ng iyong kapwa, ang sinasabi mo ba ay batay sa mabuting salita. maging mapagmahal at di makasarili lang.
Please take time to read this letter from our church leaders….very self explanatory…very true and very thoughtfully safeguard our interest as a nation and as children of God.
Our Filipino Brothers and Sisters:
The State values the dignity of every human person and guarantees full respect for human rights (Art. II, Section 11). The State recognizes the sanctity of family life and shall protect and strengthen the family as a basic autonomous social institution. It shall equally protect the life of the mother and the life of the unborn from conception (Art. II, Section 12).
Background
We begin by citing the Philippine Constitution. We do so because we intend to write you on the basis of the fundamental ideals and aspirations of the Filipino people and not on the basis of specifically Catholic religious teachings.
We are at a crossroads as a nation. Before us are several versions of a proposed bill, the Reproductive Health bill or sanitized as a Responsible Parenthood bill. This proposed bill in all its versions calls us to make a moral choice: to choose life or to choose death.
At the outset we thank the government for affording us an opportunity to express our views in friendly dialogue. Sadly our dialogue has simply revealed how far apart our respective positions are. Therefore, instead of building false hopes, we wish at the present time to draw up clearly what we object to and what we stand for.
Moral Choices at the Crossroads — at EDSA I and Now
Twenty five years ago in 1986 we Catholic Bishops made a prophetic moral judgment on political leadership. With this prophetic declaration we believe that we somehow significantly helped open the door for EDSA I and a window of political integrity.
Today we come to a new national crossroads and we now have to make a similar moral choice. Our President rallied the country with the election cry, “Kung walang corrupt walang mahirap.” As religious leaders we believe that there is a greater form of corruption, namely, moral corruption which is really the root of all corruption. On the present issue, it would be morally corrupt to disregard the moral implications of the RH bill.
This is our unanimous collective moral judgment: We strongly reject the RH bill.
Commonly Shared Human and Cultural Values – Two Fundamental Principles
Far from being simply a Catholic issue, the RH bill is a major attack on authentic human values and on Filipino cultural values regarding human life that all of us have cherished since time immemorial.
Simply stated the RH Bill does not respect moral sense that is central to Filipino cultures. It is the product of the spirit of this world, a secularist, materialistic spirit that considers morality as a set of teachings from which one can choose, according to the spirit of the age. Some it accepts, others it does not accept. Unfortunately, we see the subtle spread of this post-modern spirit in our own Filipino society.
Our position stands firmly on two of the core principles commonly shared by all who believe in God:
(1) Human life is the most sacred physical gift with which God, the author of life, endows a human being. Placing artificial obstacles to prevent human life from being formed and being born most certainly contradicts this fundamental truth of human life. In the light of the widespread influence of the post-modern spirit in our world, we consider this position as nothing less than prophetic. As religious leaders we must proclaim this truth fearlessly in season and out of season.
(2) It is parents, cooperating with God, who bring children into the world. It is also they who have the primary inalienable right and responsibility to nurture them, care for them, and educate them that they might grow as mature persons according to the will of the Creator.
What We Specifically Object to in the RH Bill
Advocates contend that the RH bill promotes reproductive health. The RH Bill certainly does not. It does not protect the health of the sacred human life that is being formed or born. The very name “contraceptive” already reveals the anti-life nature of the means that the RH bill promotes. These artificial means are fatal to human life, either preventing it from fruition or actually destroying it. Moreover, scientists have known for a long time that contraceptives may cause cancer. Contraceptives are hazardous to a woman’s health.
Advocates also say that the RH bill will reduce abortion rates. But many scientific analysts themselves wonder why prevalent contraceptive use sometimes raises the abortion rate. In truth, contraceptives provide a false sense of security that takes away the inhibition to sexual activity. Scientists have noted numerous cases of contraceptive failure. Abortion is resorted to, an act that all religious traditions would judge as sinful. “Safe sex” to diminish abortion rate is false propaganda.
Advocates moreover say that the RH bill will prevent the spread of HIV/AIDS. This goes against the grain of many available scientific data. In some countries where condom use is prevalent, HIV/ AIDS continues to spread. Condoms provide a false security that strongly entices individuals towards increased sexual activity, increasing likewise the incidence of HIV/AIDS. “Safe sex” to prevent HIV /AIDS is false propaganda.
Advocates also assert that the RH Bill empowers women with ownership of their own bodies. This is in line with the post-modern spirit declaring that women have power over their own bodies without the dictation of any religion. How misguided this so-called “new truth” is! For, indeed, as created by God our bodies are given to us to keep and nourish. We are stewards of our own bodies and we must follow God’s will on this matter according to an informed and right conscience. Such a conscience must certainly be enlightened and guided by religious and moral teachings provided by various religious and cultural traditions regarding the fundamental dignity and worth of human life.
Advocates also say that the RH bill is necessary to stop overpopulation and to escape from poverty. Our own government statistical office has concluded that there is no overpopulation in the Philippines but only the over-concentration of population in a number of urban centers. Despite other findings to the contrary, we must also consider the findings of a significant group of renowned economic scholars, including economic Nobel laureates, who have found no direct correlation between population and poverty.
In fact, many Filipino scholars have concluded that population is not the cause of our poverty. The causes of our poverty are: flawed philosophies of development, misguided economic policies, greed, corruption, social inequities, lack of access to education, poor economic and social services, poor infrastructures, etc. World organizations estimate that in our country more than P400 billion pesos are lost yearly to corruption. The conclusion is unavoidable: for our country to escape from poverty, we have to address the real causes of poverty and not population.
In the light of the above, we express our clear objections:
1. We object to the non-consideration of moral principles, the bedrock of law, in legislative discussions of bills that are intended for the good of individuals and for the common good.
2. We are against the anti-life, anti-natal and contraceptive mentality that is reflected in media and in some proposed legislative bills.
3. We object strongly to efforts at railroading the passage of the RH bill.
4. We denounce the over-all trajectory of the RH bill towards population control.
5. We denounce the use of public funds for contraceptives and sterilization.
6. We condemn compulsory sex education that would effectively let parents abdicate their primary role of educating their own children, especially in an area of life – sexuality – which is a sacred gift of God.
What We Stand For
On this matter of proposed RH bills, these are our firm convictions:
1. We are deeply concerned about the plight of the many poor, especially of suffering women, who are struggling for a better life and who must seek it outside of our country, or have recourse to a livelihood less than decent.
2. We are pro-life. We must defend human life from the moment of conception or fertilization up to its natural end.
3. We believe in the responsible and natural regulation of births through Natural Family Planning for which character building is necessary which involves sacrifice, discipline and respect for the dignity of the spouse.
4. We believe that we are only stewards of our own bodies. Responsibility over our own bodies must follow the will of God who speaks to us through conscience.
5. We hold that on the choices related to the RH bill, conscience must not only be informed but most of all rightly guided through the teachings of one’s faith.
6. We believe in the freedom of religion and the right of conscientious objection in matters that are contrary to one’s faith. The sanctions and penalties embodied in the proposed RH bill are one more reason for us to denounce it.
Our Calls
As religious leaders we have deeply and prayerfully reflected on this burning issue. We have unanimously made the moral judgment – to reject the RH agenda and to choose life.
1. We call for a fundamental transformation of our attitudes and behavior towards all human life especially the most defenseless, namely, human life being formed or being conceived. The cheapness with which many seem to consider human life is a great bane to our religious-oriented nation.
2. We call upon our legislators to consider the RH bill in the light of the God-given dignity and worth of human life and, therefore, to shelve it completely as contrary to our ideals and aspirations as a people. We thank our legislators who have filed bills to defend human life from the moment of conception and call upon all other legislators to join their ranks.
3. We thank the great multitude of lay people all over the country, and particularly the dedicated groups who made their presence felt in the halls of Congress, to defend and promote our position. We call upon other lay people and adherents of other religions to join the advocacy to defend and promote our commonly shared ideals and aspirations.
4. We call on our government to address effectively the real causes of poverty such as corruption, lack of social and economic services, lack of access to education and the benefits of development, social inequities.
5. We call for the establishment of more hospitals and clinics in the rural areas, the deployment of more health personnel to provide more access to health services, the building of more schools, the provision of more aid to the poor for education, and the building of more and better infrastructures necessary for development.
6. We echo the challenge we prophetically uttered 25 years ago at EDSA I and call upon all people of good will who share our conviction: “…let us pray together, reason together, decide together, act together, always to the end that the truth prevail” over the many threats to human life and to our shared human and cultural values.
We commend our efforts against the RH bill (or the Responsible Parenthood bill – its new name) to the blessing of our almighty and loving God, from whom all life comes and for whom it is destined.
For the Catholic Bishops’ Conference of the Philippines.